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Re: Lagenlook Inspiration & Chat
« Reply #210 on: March 15, 2017, 08:45:55 PM »

Thank you Rivergum! Your comment is especially appreciated as i've put on some weight the last year (living with my mom who's a fantastic cook and walking less). Thankfully i've been exercising more recently which makes me feel much better.

Congratulations to you on slimming down! It takes a lot of discipline :)

I'm with you on unusual hemlines... if they ever go out of fashion entirely i'll just put my hands over my ears and sing loudly, haha!
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« Reply #211 on: March 16, 2017, 07:38:29 AM »

MrsExcentric, thank you so much for the skirt pictures. It's interesting you can carry a LOT in the pockets and yet have the bulge hidden by the ruffles.
Rivergum, I'm glad you're feeling good about the weight loss. I wouldn't worry about your favorite hem shape being dated because Lagenlook is not mainstream anyway so I'm sure you'll always find a way to incorporate this feature.  8)
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Re: Lagenlook Inspiration & Chat
« Reply #212 on: March 16, 2017, 08:45:50 AM »

What exactly is Lagenlook?  I've seen it mentioned on lots of sewing forums, and I have no idea what they're talking about.  Could someone enlighten me please?
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« Reply #213 on: March 16, 2017, 12:29:25 PM »

Melinda, I think the best summary of Lagenlook can be found here:
http://spottydogsocialclub.blogspot.hk/2017/01/tg-12-days.html

Twotoast was one of last year's SWAP winners, she did a Lagenlook SWAP.

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« Reply #214 on: March 16, 2017, 03:50:51 PM »

Manuela great post by two toast! She really rocks her lagenlook wardrobe, such an inspiration to me.

https://magdoola.wordpress.com/what-is-lagenlook/

I also like this essay by magdoola on what is lagenlook. The style is vexingly hard to pin down but that's part of its charm 😇
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Re: Lagenlook Inspiration & Chat
« Reply #215 on: March 16, 2017, 07:36:51 PM »

Great links to posts on LL, Manuela and Mrs Eccentric. My own preferences are more towards the plain Japanese style, no ruffles, embellishments or unfinished edges. Really nice fabric is essential I have discovered after trying out cheap stuff. Looks cheap.  ;D

Melinda, you can also type 'Lagenlook' into the search function on Pinterest and get quite a good spread of the various styles.

Some of my favourite sites are http://amalthee-creations.com/sitemap-for-clothing and http://shonmodern.com
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Re: Lagenlook Inspiration & Chat
« Reply #216 on: March 16, 2017, 10:04:00 PM »

In reply 38 on this very thread, FrancesGrimble gave a definition of Lagenlook that I think can be pretty helpful.
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« Reply #217 on: March 17, 2017, 11:14:25 AM »

Yes I find Frances’ definition very helpful for understanding why I follow lagenlook discussions even tho I don’t wear the full style myself.
Here is part of her description, with the aspects that I wear myself in bold.


“No specific colors are associated with lagenlook. The tailored look (see below) favors plain fabrics (that is, no prints, stripes, or the like). In addition to plain colors, the frilly look favors traditional-looking cotton prints, eyelets, stripes, checks, and plaids. Woolens are often heathered.
[I like embroidered and other textured fabrics]

Two main looks:  Tailored and frilly/Edwardianish. The difference between the two can be putting (or not putting) a ruffle (or ruffles) on the same garment. For many examples of the tailored look from different manufacturers, see the eBay store Watersister (aside from some ugly jewelry) and the designer Cynthia Ashby, among others. For the frilly look, among others see the designers Krista Larson, Ivey Abitz, Tina Givens, Sarah Clemens, Magnolia Pearl, and Ewa i Walla. German and Scandinavian lagenlook often has a folkloric air, including scoop-necked peasant vests and multicolored embroidery.  [small ruffles (definitely not big ones !) and lace trim on blouses for me]

Popular garments include tunics (varying from hip length to almost floor length), loose crop tops (that is somewhere above the waist), loose vests, long skirts and dresses, and wide and balloon pants. The frillier look often features jumpers, and petticoat-skirts and drawer-pants peeking below jumpers, dresses, or tunics. Outerwear includes long loose coats, long sweaters, and although as not often shown with lagenlook I think ponchos are ideal. There is no standard hemline length for any garment.  [a generally slouchy i.e. very oversized look for me]

Especially for the tailored look, details include what I call random piecing (a garment section that doesn’t really have to be cut separately, and which can be a contrasting fabric or not). Also for both the tailored and frilly looks, irregular tucks, uneven hems, and drawstring effects are popular.

Hats:  They are not often shown with American lagenlook, but the Germans like woolly hats, knitted or fabric.

Jewelry:  I’ve never seen much discussion of this, but I think handmade-looking, informal-looking jewelry works best.  [I wear real Edwardian pieces.]


As you can see, I’m happy in the more peasant / Edwardian / embellished fabric features (I think yokes are probably my ‘signature’ style element).  But not many of the 'arty' garment shapes or the layered hem lengths round the hips, and for me those are defining of lagenlook  ;D
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Re: Lagenlook Inspiration & Chat
« Reply #218 on: March 17, 2017, 12:29:48 PM »

Thank you all, that's really helpful!   ;D
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« Reply #219 on: March 17, 2017, 12:37:41 PM »

Lagenlook itself is not something I would wear, but I find some of the elements inspiring, and use them in my own way. Then again, others might not understand why I love lace dresses and am hell bent on turning shoes into Cheshire cats.
This is what I love about the Stitcher's Guild, we all have different tastes, live oceans or continents apart, are of all ages, and somehow united by the love of sewing.  :)

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« Reply #220 on: March 18, 2017, 08:02:52 PM »

My Doc Martens have arrived. Very comfy, but I am still a bit self-conscious when I wear them and hide the tops under my pant legs. No doubt it will pass. Not brazen enough yet to order the red pair but who knows?

I blame the lot of you for leading me astray.  :D
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« Reply #221 on: March 18, 2017, 09:13:44 PM »

Rivergum, you look great in everything.

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« Reply #222 on: March 23, 2017, 03:43:37 PM »

I just discovered a new (to me) Lagenlook inspirational page:  Buykud.com  Wonderful dresses, pants, shirts, shoes and the prices are quite reasonable.  These are not the frilly fluffy look, but more of the plainer Japanese aesthetic - take a look, I think you'll be surprised and pleased.
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« Reply #223 on: March 23, 2017, 07:43:55 PM »

Yes, the Chinese and Koreans seem to have embraced the Japanese mori girl style of Lagenlook, proving, to me at least, that short, slim built women look great in oversized clothes. There are quite a few sites online that sell similar clothes. I love the big overalls and am quite tempted. The model is the same height as me, but 20kg lighter. So not sure if it will look as good on me as it does on her.   ;D
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« Reply #224 on: March 26, 2017, 04:15:14 AM »

Need I say more? Krista @ Kati Koos.

Silk, raw edge, seams on the outside. Click for yummy size.

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« Reply #225 on: March 26, 2017, 04:58:18 AM »

Lovely fabric, but I'm afraid I can't make friends with the raw edges.
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« Reply #226 on: March 26, 2017, 05:28:45 AM »

Lovely fabric, but I'm afraid I can't make friends with the raw edges.

I know, not for everyone. I like it on some things, in the right fabric. The trick is to control it so you only get so much fray. When it's a cross dyed fabric, like this silk, the effect can be stunning. To me anyway.  ;D
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Re: Lagenlook, Arty & non-Mainstream Inspiration & Chat
« Reply #227 on: March 26, 2017, 05:38:50 AM »

You might have noticed that I changed the title of our thread. I almost called it this from the get go, as really, we are talking about and interested in the fashions that follow their own path, not mainstream fashion. Certainly, at times there is crossover and collaboration with mainstream fashion, but often we gravitate to styles that leave a lot of people shaking their heads. Well, here, on this thread, is a place for those of us nodding in agreement.

Feel free to talk about other not quite typical fashion here, as well as garments that fall into that Lagenlook area. You know, Boho & Mori, Steampunk & Post Apocalyptic, Goth, Lolita, what ever appeals to you that speaks of uniqueness.

To get you in the mood, give a listen to this music video on Youtube. The band is called Disturbed and their cover of The Sound of Silence is remarkable. I don't listen to a lot of metal music, but the frontman, David Draiman is incredible. Not mainstream, but pretty wonderful.
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« Reply #228 on: March 26, 2017, 06:14:12 AM »

I like the mixed and matched (are these the right words ?) buttons on this garment. It complements well the raw edges.

In my ideal wardrobe there is a mix of conventional, lagenlook and boho/folklore clothes. It seems I'm sewing lots of conventional (SWAP, 6PAC) but as soon as I'm freed from this SWAP commitment I hope to make some statement pieces with stronger personality.
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« Reply #229 on: March 26, 2017, 12:26:06 PM »

Thank you Rene, given my ecclectic taste when it comes to coats, capes and shoes I feel included here  ;D

I finally admitted defeat and the fact that I'm not going to be able to actually walk in the Irregular Choice gnome and unicorn shoes I bought a numer of years ago, and sold them on a IC fan page. I had no idea how sought after they were, so I made enough money to buy 3 pairs of IC shoes I can walk in  ;D
The first one arrived yesterday, with half insoles in the front these are comfy... Meet the Frog Princess  ;)

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« Reply #230 on: March 26, 2017, 03:04:36 PM »

Unlike Manuela and her marvellous shoes, I'm finding I'm more mainstream than I thought, rather than less ;D

The non-Mainstream label has sparked off much thinking about my style.
I find I need to consider shapes and trims separately.
I mainly use conventional shapes with unusual trims. . . and they’re not ‘arty’ or ‘crafty’ trims, but ‘heirloom’ style ones.

My choice of smock shapes is not high fashion mainstream.  But I get a couple of catalogues which have many.  Search pinterest ‘smock’ and tab ‘dress’ to get many high-street versions.  So I’m not being odd at all ;D

Also on pinterest, search ’smock’ and tab ‘fashion’ gets some stunning garments !
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« Reply #231 on: March 26, 2017, 04:55:21 PM »

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My choice of smock shapes is not high fashion mainstream.  But I get a couple of catalogues which have many. ...
I live in a community you'd swear was projected forward from about 1944.  We're not rich.  Well to-do means a new dress for Christmas and Easter, new plaid shirt for the mister. There are several portly ladies for whom the smock is the best choice.  They always manage to find interesting colors, prints in current fibers and weaves.  They look nice.  They must be getting your catalogs too.
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« Reply #232 on: March 27, 2017, 02:36:42 AM »

Ivey Abitz has their new spring looks up.  I've been waiting for this, but I'm not overly impressed.  They've also changed the website.  I'm not too impressed with that either.  Don't get me wrong.  There are several looks that I liked a lot, just not as many as in past collections.  I guess I need to go look at them again.  Maybe I was just in a bad mood when I saw them the first time.
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« Reply #233 on: March 27, 2017, 11:14:48 AM »

Found this lovely ruffled outfit for a doll.
https://www.mydollbestfriend.co.uk/carpatina-camden-clothing-p-549.html


Easy to copy from adult patterns but sadly, while lagenlook would be accepted here without a murmur, an outfit like this for everyday wear on an adult would be greeted with embarrassed amazement.  Perhaps it would be possible to wear either blouse or skirt. . .
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« Reply #234 on: March 27, 2017, 02:46:49 PM »

I agree with Rivergum and find the Japanese styles to be attractive.  It is more attractive to me than the American version of Lagenlook.  Japanese have such a wonderful style, in my opinion, as if it all is folded over and contained looking without being overly fitted.  I also am attracted to Scandinavian styles and more real European looks.
It is my opinion that the American Lagenlook is much  too young for any other than the truly young.  It  looks very theatrical to me.

I agree that I like the clothes in the photo shoots of that woman in the desert, the one who looks a lot like Edie Falco.  Some are a bit too exaggerated to translate into everyday , but I still like the general mood of it.  She wears lots of layers of  clothes in those photo shoots.  The choice would be to pick and choose from amongst the elements.  I would attract a lot of attention if I went out dressed in most of the ensembles, in toto.   So would you.
 
I just can't imagine me standing at Wegmans wearing a complete ensemble of that.  But, to find some of the elements of that manner of dressing that actually do translate into something that would not make you a spectacle at the deli counter would be the goal.  After all, I rarely hang out in the desert all dressed up in yards of linen and draped in very large necklaces, but often find myself at the grocery store buying bananas, flour and canned tomatoes.  I need something like that, for that.
 
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« Reply #235 on: March 27, 2017, 04:32:38 PM »

As I posted on Twotoast's blog post, my style is a little bit of a lot of things (I hope that doesn't mean I don't have style LOL!)  Living in centra/southern California, things are pretty relaxed here and I live in a town where jeans are the norm.  Even though I do wear jeans, I love lots of layers (mostly because I can never decide if I'm hot or cold) and creative pieces that are not like anyone else's.  I recently finished a "Alex top" from the Sewing Workshop that fits nicely into my style.  I think I will like it even better with a vest or layering piece over it.  The linen Etra dress I made recently (Tina Givens) is finally starting to get more compliments as opposed to "nice nightgown" remarks.  I love tights and leggings under clothing and summer will bring more handkerchief linen and gauzy fabrics.  Since I am a combination hourglass/ pear shape, things that fit more at the waist are more flattering on my body type, which makes this style a little more challenging for me.  Personal style is always evolving for me, but I wish my body size would quit growing with it!!
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« Reply #236 on: March 27, 2017, 10:23:11 PM »

I don't get Lagenlook - I really don't!
Is it an American thing, that hasn't come to the UK? I don't see people walking around here dressed like that.
I am not criticising anyone's individual style, there have been some very nice outfits shown here, with exquisite sewing and intricate work.
Some of the links to online shops have some very strange clothing. A lot of it looks droopy, heavy and cumbersome, give me skinny jeans any day!
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« Reply #237 on: March 27, 2017, 10:47:00 PM »

Lisanne, I've seen at least one pattern for a top with ruffles like, well, the top, but perhaps not all the sets of ruffles. If I can remember the brand, I'll post it, not that you need a pattern! It was an indie that I'm not too familiar with.
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« Reply #238 on: March 28, 2017, 01:18:06 AM »

New Vogue pattern 1550 for the Lagenlook fans  :)

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« Reply #239 on: March 28, 2017, 06:07:05 AM »

Oooh yes, right up my alley!
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« Reply #240 on: March 28, 2017, 03:38:05 PM »

Lyn3, I don't see people wearing this either.  I live in a very sophisticated and cosmopolitan area of the east coast.
I love some loose clothes and linen, but much of this is like wearing a tent.  Really, many of the shapes tent the body, quite literally.

Still, some of the elements are quite interesting.
American Lagenlook tends towards ruffles and a very, very young look.  I don't care for that, at all.  I am a grandmother and do not wish to dress  like a little girl.
Otherwise, there is a lot of fabric in some of those ensembles, too much.  And, many of the models are quite tall.  That makes them much more flattering than on us that are a little over five feet tall.  Many of us shorter ones can look like a cloaked Druid wearing so much fabric and so many layers.

What I find attractive about the over all style is that is loose and it can, but usually does not, harken back to some of the old world garb of caftans, robes, and clothing made from whole cloth.  I also love things made of linen and am in revolt against Spandex.  It makes more sense, in my thinking, to have garments that are large enough to be accommodating and comfortable, rather than to be made small so that they will stretch because that is what Spandex does.    It is ultimately more comfortable to have loose clothing that lets the body breath than to have something that is quite literally skin tight that does not actually have the active attributes of real live skin.  This overall acceptance of Spandex is just unreal and environmentally dangerous.

I am curious as to anyone has actually seen Lagenlook in the wild, to any appreciable degree.  I cant' say that I have ever seen anyone wearing the likes of this.  Then, of course, you don't see anyone actually wearing those fashion runways designs either.  Just pick and choose from the elements.



 
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« Reply #241 on: March 28, 2017, 06:52:13 PM »

I wear Lagenlook, although the pared back Japanese version, decidedly oversized longish tunics or dresses over wide pants, but not that many layers. Big scarves in winter, big necklaces in summer. No ruffles. With the current fashion I see lots of people with similar tunics to the ones I wear, although usually worn with leggings, jeans or capris, not my more voluminous pants. As for being swamped, it is important to adapt the look to your size. The best illustration of that are the Chinese models. They are around 160cm tall, tiny in comparison to western models, but they look great in oversized clothes.

In the photo of the Vogue pattern above, there is absolutely no indication of how tall that model is, we simply assume that she is tall because of the way her clothes look on her. As sewists we can replicate her look at any height, by adapting patterns to our own size. You just need to pay attention to ease on the model and where garment hems hit at the hip, waist, leg, arm etc. Then replicate the fit on your own body.

A degree of acclimatisation also happens as you get used to the look. Those concerned about what people think who are not used to LL might feel very 'visible' dressing differently to the mainstream. I care a little, but not enough to stop me from dressing the way I like. But I do take photos of myself to check what I look like (what you see in the mirror is not as objective) and I value my daughter's opinion, who is a conservative dresser not a part of the LL community.
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« Reply #242 on: March 28, 2017, 07:56:24 PM »

Just came across this picture of Mary-Kate Olsen, in yet another version of LL. I think she is quite petite? Wide pants, long loose shirt, boxy jacket with wide dropped shoulders, flat shoes, big bag. This look seems to be making it into the mainstream. Not sure if I like that, if it is fashionable it will eventually be out of fashion too. Still, I read once that the big fashion picture, not the individual trends, is supposed to last about 7 years before there is a radical change. Not sure if this is true, but it sounds comforting.



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« Reply #243 on: March 28, 2017, 09:23:15 PM »

I know a certain amount of people don't like what I wear because so many people hate lagenlook because they don't understand it, (or vintage because it's old, or vintage-inspired because it's not authentic,  or modern because it's unfamiliar, or casual, or smart, or activewear, or jeans, or black, or color, or whatever combination thereof I'm wearing). I only want to please myself. If other people also enjoy what I'm wearing, and share knowledge that with me, that's nice. Generally, I don't get any comments the first time people see me wearing a unique or different piece of clothing. When people have seen me wearing a unique or different piece of clothing for the second time, I will often get compliments, and if anyone has any criticism, they do keep it to themselves.
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Re: Lagenlook, Arty & non-Mainstream Inspiration & Chat
« Reply #244 on: March 28, 2017, 09:27:15 PM »

Just came across this picture of Mary-Kate Olsen, in yet another version of LL. I think she is quite petite? Wide pants, long loose shirt, boxy jacket with wide dropped shoulders, flat shoes, big bag. This look seems to be making it into the mainstream. Not sure if I like that, if it is fashionable it will eventually be out of fashion too. Still, I read once that the big fashion picture, not the individual trends, is supposed to last about 7 years before there is a radical change. Not sure if this is true, but it sounds comforting.



I have forgotten how to make this pic smaller, can somebody help me?

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if that helps
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