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Started by DragonLady, December 18, 2017, 09:44:57 am
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Quote from: Petlover on December 27, 2017, 11:06:49 amWhat is the cut-off date for those who are not subscribing?
Quote from: KayoticSewing on December 27, 2017, 11:36:35 amHi Dragonlady, I had sent in a donation earlier this year in May and I don't see that I'm a paid member yet on my profile. After the subscription model was announced, I had sent a personal msg to you about it (with donation date, paypal email id) The original paypal donation also had my forum username in the notes. I haven't heard back from you yet. Do you need any other information from me? Thanks!
Quote from: Karen on December 27, 2017, 07:00:44 amI think Pipsy's idea of an email blast is a very good one, particularly if those from past members who couldn't find/didn't know about or get into the new site (I have several friends in those situations) are available. Though I reserve the right to change my mind I likely will not subscribe for a myriad of reasons. I am in touch with/friends in person, on Facebook, IG, a little blog reading, with many friends I met here or further back when Sewing World was still intact, and have surveyed their thought. Out of maybe a couple dozen so far one will subscribe despite sharing some of the reasons why I may not, another is likely going to but as yet uncommitted. Most of these friends are incredibly accomplished sewers who haven't contributed/participated in awhile, or have done so very minimally. I'm wondering if perhaps, if an email blast is done or even on the site (if it could be done anonymously), if a survey of why those who may not subscribe, giving reasons why, would be helpful in SG's evolution not just technically, but content wise?Many thanks to DL and the admins who've voluntarily given so much time to keep SG happening for so long!
Quote from: Petlover on December 27, 2017, 12:44:08 pmOkay, do we have a group on Facebook??
Quote from: DragonLady on December 27, 2017, 03:43:15 pmWithout conflict, and serious -deep- differences of opinion, there is no discussion.Do we want a lively board where everyone has a voice -even those you don't want to hear, or do we want a nice, polite, peaceful graveyard?If needed, I'll elaborate on this post, but I'm being serious -and your admin- when I say this. If we remove the right to speak our minds, there won't be any minds speaking.
Quote from: DragonLady on December 27, 2017, 11:59:19 amKayotic, I can't find you searching PayPal either, so apparently your email address there is different then here; so I'll need the info from you again.I'll get you properly credited as soon as I receive it from you.
Quote from: karent link=topic=1243.msg30595#msg30595Frankly, starting a thread listing the names of people who have left here will not bring them back.
Quote from: DeniseMW on December 27, 2017, 03:12:40 pm"Overly-sensitive powder puffs...""Allow conversation that isn't illegal or threatening to occur without censorship just because there are snowflakes (sorry, I don't know of a better word) that don't want to know about people doing something else with their brains and energy than sew."How do those statements reflect fact? Snowflake is "A term used to describe extremist liberals that get offended by every statement and/or belief that doesn't exactly match their own. These individuals think they are just as "unique" as snowflakes, when really their feelings are just as fragile." Which sounds like a pretty derogatory label to me.
Quote from: Judith on December 27, 2017, 05:11:03 pmQuote from: DragonLady on December 27, 2017, 03:43:15 pmWithout conflict, and serious -deep- differences of opinion, there is no discussion.Do we want a lively board where everyone has a voice -even those you don't want to hear, or do we want a nice, polite, peaceful graveyard?If needed, I'll elaborate on this post, but I'm being serious -and your admin- when I say this. If we remove the right to speak our minds, there won't be any minds speaking.I am glad to read this response. There have been times when I wondered if I wanted to continue here, and I did stay away for a while, because I thought there appeared to be an interest, in sone instances, of looking to be offended. It's good to read that discussion will be encouraged. There was a time when the chatter section was lively and informative . I hope that happens again. Judith
QuoteDragonLady, you are asking people to subscribe for $35.00, But it's all a bit vague as to what will be provided in return. Why such a short notice period? What, exactly happens on the 1st of January? You must have some idea by now. I see by your counter you have 74 subscribers surely this isn't sustainable?You may like to checkout what they are saying on GOMI.
Quote from: DragonLady on December 27, 2017, 05:41:26 pmTo hold a community together, we need a lot of voices -with very different ideas, opinions, lifestyles, religions, techniques, etc. and that means now and then someone will be offended by something someone else had to say.
Quote from: DeniseMW on December 27, 2017, 06:33:28 pmmarciae I would like to know what you found so offensive in my reply. My point is that we should be able to have a civil discussion without putting people into categories or slapping labels on them that demean and thereby invalidate their opinions. If you believe calling someone a snowflake or a powder puff is the way to treat a fellow poster whose opinion you do not share, because someone on the boards you happen to like brought them up, then we must disagree on what constitutes polite discourse. This isn't some sort of popularity contest. But when it comes to opening the board up to political topics if Dragon Lady decides it's what she wants to do, we need to at least try and let folks voice their opinions without using insulting labels to shut them down.Nuff said. I am getting off this thread because it's just stealing my joy.
Quote from: lydia on December 27, 2017, 04:49:44 pmI, too, am on the fence. Not because of the $35.00, but because of the lack of any excitement (or angst). I can get my problems solved by looking at my plethora of sewing manuals and fitting instructions. What I will miss are the interpersonal relationships I have made... Karent, who led me to Dr. Bronner's soap, to the point of telling me exactly where I could find this at Target. She has sent me a VitaMix, and has given me countless pieces of wisdom concerning health. Marciae, who has been a great email friend, we share the same birthday (one day apart), has sent me countless patterns and such, some which I have kept and some given to our ASG chapter. These are the people who have made my hum-drum life quite a bit more exciting (?). Let me add Bev, who keeps going and who posted a gorgeous photo of herself yesterday and VTMartha. I had hoped to meet her when her DD was attending university about forty miles from me. Unfortunately, this never happened. I can do without any 'slamming' of other personalities; each person is unique (took me quite a bit of life to realize this), but this is what made the SG unique. Let me add the times I sent Breast Cancer Comfort Pillows to those in need. I one time received a nasty PM concerning what (?). Reported it to the Mods - end of story. Am still pondering the future. .....Lydia
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