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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 12:24:36 PM »
Andromache, I don't know if they kill the mink deliberately or not. But. What I do know, is that that is some fantastic looking fabric you've posted the link to. OOOOOh!  :o It looks to be a heavy coating weight, but upon reading the description, it's a light weight wool Soooooooo so so scrumptious looking. I don't know, but I think I may havfta get me some of that.

Sorry, PITA. Oops.  :P ::) PETA ;D
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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 01:16:47 PM »
I would assume that mink is gone.  Mink 'fibers' are usually obtained from the pelt, not shorn like sheep.  And, well, to get a pelt...  Maybe someone else knows more particulars, but I assumed the fur that goes into blended fabrics (like the one you saw) is obtained by the 'scraps' left when the pelt is used for other purposes.  If it makes you feel any better, these are wild trapped animals but bred for just such a purpose (hamburger, anyone?)  I have some mink/cashmere blend somewhere in my closet - from G Street, it was a men's wool suiting.  VERRRRY nice.  I just pet it from time to time  ::).

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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2013, 01:21:02 PM »
Apparently, mink fibres are obtained by 'brushing' the dear little critters.  Now, there's a job that, hands down, beats chicken sexing any time!
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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 01:47:29 PM »
Apparently, mink fibres are obtained by 'brushing' the dear little critters.  Now, there's a job that, hands down, beats chicken sexing any time!
Really?  Huh, who knew?  ???  Mink aren't especially sweet creatures, I might actually prefer to sex chicks.  Fewer bites and scratches.  Make me glad I went to college, either way.  :rotfl:  Ever tried to blow-dry a cat?   :-\

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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2013, 01:50:55 PM »
Does anyone have a reference for any of that?
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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2013, 02:26:35 PM »
I would think you need to get the info from manufacturer?  There aren't really standards for the production of these things, how the mink is treated is up to the maker of the fabric, just as how much grass a "free-range" chicken sees is up to the farmer.  It is probably fair to assume that the mink are not treated like housepets in the mass production of yard goods, but worldwide manufacturing practices are highly varied.

BTW, I have some mink/wool/cashmere marinating in my stash.  Got it from A Fabric Place a couple of years ago, and it is TDF.  I keep changing my mind about how to use it...  K

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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2013, 02:49:53 PM »
I don't have many overly-rosy conceptions of how farm animals are treated; I just draw the line at killing vertebrates just for my own vanity, and want to know what side of the line mink fabric is on.
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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2013, 03:42:21 PM »
Excerpt from here
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on Dutch ban  on Mink farms - It is truly inspiring that the majority of the Dutch senate has not allowed economics to prevail over ethics, recognising that it is unacceptable and cruel to keep animals in small, wire cages to be killed for their fur

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Mink have been farmed for fur in the United States for 130 years. In 2010, the U.S. ranked fifth in production behind Denmark, China, the Netherlands and Poland. Mink typically breed in March, and give birth to their litters in May. Farmers vaccinate the young kits for botulism, distemper, enteritis, and, if needed, pneumonia. They are harvested in November and December. Methods for euthanizing animals on fur farms, as on all farms, are detailed in the American Veterinary Medical Association's Report on Euthanasia which is used as a guideline for state departments of agriculture which have jurisdiction over all farms raising domesticated livestock, including mink.[14]

Mink are bred once a year, the average litter is three or four kits. The best animals are kept for breeding stock for the next year and the remainder are harvested.

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To produce 1 kg of fur requires 11.4 mink pelts, i.e. more than 11 animals

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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2013, 03:45:43 PM »
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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2013, 04:57:52 PM »

...  I have some mink/cashmere blend somewhere in my closet - from G Street, it was a men's wool suiting.  VERRRRY nice.  I just pet it from time to time  ::).

Mmmmm. I'll bet it is.  :) If you ever decide to get rid of it....please let me know.  ;D

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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2013, 06:14:32 PM »
Facts always trump speculation.

Nevertheless, about ten seconds of imagining someone trying to hold down a small ferret-like creature long enough to shear it was enough to answer the question for me.  I think I'd rather attempt to blow-dry the cat.  :rotfl:
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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2013, 06:24:53 PM »
I have nothing to add except that I'm glad I read this to clarify since, when I first glanced at the topic, I thought someone was actually wondering if minkee - minkEE fabric - that stuff in bright and soft colors with polka dots and such embossed for baby blankets etc. - involved mink maiming.  I must have still been decaffeinated.
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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2013, 08:01:41 PM »
There are mink farms in my neck of the woods.I'm glad we don't live near one.As soon as I drive by a mink farm some country road blocks away,the air stinks like skunk.

Animal activists have released over 60 000 minks some years ago and less numbers,only 20 000 numerous times.The mink farmers could catch most of the minks.(What were the animal activists  thinking,just releasing them into the wild and not caring for them.I can't understand their dumb,impulsive actions,without thinking of the welfare of the animals.They would starve in the wild,that seems to be a more humane way to those unthinking activists,I don't think so.).On a mink farm,minks are born in safety,raised cared for and fed in safety,they die quick and painlessly with gas. Personally I think of the skunk stink when I see someone wearing a mink coat or jacket.

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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2013, 08:14:51 PM »
Great Northern Yarn (NAYY) says the cashmere/mink blend yarns they sell are from Mongolia and cruelty-free.  From their site:

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The minks are not harmed in any way; they are sheared once a year, just like a sheep, in the warm summer months to harvest their treasure of superfine down. The mink and cashmere fibers are woolen spun (a spinning technique where the fibers go every which way) leveraging the fibers' natural lightweight insulating properties by trapping more air and creating a yarn with a signature "halo" that is exceedingly lightweight, soft and warm a yarn you want to pet.

So it's possible that the fabric is produced from yarn sourced in the same way.  But no way to really tell...

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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2013, 08:29:31 PM »
I found out about 'mink brushing' from knit buddies.blogspot.com.au
(Can't seem to create a link on my iPad.)

Of course, the writer also says that possum fur is obtained in Australia as a bi-product of the food industry, which is not correct!  Possum are a protected species in Australia, but are exotic to New Zealand where the pelts and fur are highly prized.

I don't see why it would be necessary to kill a mink to obtain fibres for yarn or cloth, although, admittedly, the idea of brushing a smelly little mink sounds a bit far-fetched!
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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2013, 09:08:58 PM »
The production and the idea of making mink fabric is believed to have begun in Korea and China. Mink blankets are not made out of animal fur but are made using acrylic fiber (man-made fiber,I read online.

Merinomink,an exclusive blend of fine merino wool,luxurious brushtail Possum fibre, silk for strength and with angora added for lighter colours, Merinomink is a refined combination of supreme comfort, excellent long wearing properties and beautiful design.

Merinomink is unique in that it has featherweight softness and is incredibly warm, due to the hollow structure of the Brushtail Possum fibre, which traps air both within the fibre and in the fabric when blended with high crimp, fine Merino.Link

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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2013, 10:27:58 PM »
I'm not convinced that shearing a mink is cruelty free.  I think there is a certain amount of stress induced when sheep are shorn.  I can't even imagine the experience for a mink.  Smaller animals are usually more easily stressed and react more adversely to this.
 I suspect the fur is harvested in many ways, it's difficult to be sure how the content in purchased fabric has been obtained.
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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2013, 12:25:21 AM »
The cashmere,mink/wool fabrics for sale online seem to have only between 1% - 15% mink fiber in it,I read.I found one mill outside China,or other Asian countries,that advertised  cashmere,mink/wool fabrics online.Over 50 Australian mills of this type have closed in the face of competition from cheap imports in recent years.Here is a link with a mill picture,I guess mink fiber is woven into the fabric like wool.Now I'm off to find a picture of a cashmere goat.

Heather,there are links about how sheep are (mis)treated,just search,The Hidden Lives of Sheep,if you are interested.I'm allergic to wool,if I could wear wool,I wouldn't buy wool produced from places mentioned in the link.There are smaller independent sheep farmers around,they treat their sheep like a valuable animal should be treated.

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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2013, 01:37:36 AM »
Thanks Pina,
It does us all good to be well informed before we lay our cash out.
I'm am glad I'm not allergic to wool, although I find I have less and less of it these days.  I kinda love the smell of lanolin though, is that weird?
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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2013, 06:50:04 AM »
Several years ago, I purchased some cashmere with mink.  It is a heavy coating weight fabric.  You can see the fur fibers woven into the fabric in a very random way.  The fibers sort of stick out, then lay flat with the fabric.  I bought the fabric from a now defunct (I think) website when it was on sale.  I think I'm remembering that it was supposed to be $200 per yard fabric and I'm sure I didn't pay more than $50.00 per yard.  There is no wool in mine - just cashmere and mink.  The mink fibers appear to be white or near white, so are somewhat visible, but they are so seldom that from a distance of 3 or 5 feet away, they really aren't visible.    I ended up purchasing a large white fox fur collar for it and always feel very posh when I wear it.  I'll see if I can post a link to a picture of it later. 

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Re: Mink blend fabric-- do they kill the mink?
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2013, 05:30:06 PM »
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Ever tried to blow-dry a cat?   :-\

No thanks. I prefer my skin un-shredded. I have a tough enough time blow drying my Yorkie.
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