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The "10 Dresses"
« on: May 14, 2012, 03:05:16 PM »
So I read this article online - http://www.glamour.com/fashion/2012/04/10-dresses-every-woman-should-own#slide=1 - and made a list of them.  This article has rather more "party" dresses than I need, so I combined it with this similar article - http://www.fabsugar.com/Dresses-Every-Woman-Should-Own-22652963

Since I seem to own NONE of them, I am thinking of tackling this project. Don't know how I'll do it, since I have not yet finished the 6 pairs of boxer shorts I have cut out!  But I was considering trying to knock off a dress a month perhaps.

I was wondering if anyone else had seen these articles and felt inspired?

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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2012, 04:22:49 PM »
I just looked over the list and know right away there are a bunch I wouldn't need/wear.  I do wish they would show the same 10 dresses geared toward  middle age! I bet I have a couple of those in my closet right now....
 I don't have the skills to sew anything sophisticated, but would love to make a couple of sundresses.

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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2012, 04:52:40 PM »
I agree with molly ..... they are lovely dresses, but really aimed at the waif thin coat hangers.  I would like to see the same list, but aimed for a more mature figure. 
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2012, 05:05:34 PM »
I'm glad that dresses are finally having a moment, and really wish I could participate, since a dress - one piece - is so easy! But I don't show my legs.
Still, you can adapt the concepts to whatever it is you do wear - something flirty and summery, red-carpet glam, no-fail party outfit, etc.

I think I'd edit the list for my needs. I can use flirty and summery, lady-like, no-fail party, basic white, basic black. Those could all be adapted to a pants + top scheme. Some of the other categories don't fit my life - like most of the looks in the second link (except the maxi). I hope I'm around for the time when dresses in longer lengths are on trend. Then I might be inclined to participate.

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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2012, 07:00:50 PM »
as someone who mostly wears dresses (or jumpers) all the time, how could I resist checking out what was suggested as a "wardrobe of dresses"? Well, as Morticia Addams said "it is an interesting approach, but it isn't us..."

I am far from the target demographic of the style pictured, but could not resist the challenge to interpret the concept, but based more on my own lifestyle, (which doesn't include a lot of formal events or sequinned evenings out):

1. summery sundress, could be sleeveless or with cap sleeves
2. fun feminine floral
3. textured and tailored
4. dark sheath or shift
5. buttonfront shirt-dress
6. wrap dress, actual or just "wrap-look"
7. little black dress 
8. house dress for doing chores
9. little white dress (or light color)
10. party dress

A few of these would not make it into my personal wardrobe (white dress... why???) and most folks would not wear a dress for house chores but probably pants and t shirt, I just might have to keep this in mind as I make up new clothes for myself this year...
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2012, 12:21:24 AM »
Oh Great!
Just what I need for housework, shopping, gardening, commuting......
---Actually I need some bling! -Bring on the sequins!
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2012, 02:04:05 AM »
Oh Great!
Just what I need for housework, shopping, gardening, commuting......
---Actually I need some bling! -Bring on the sequins!

Equally great!! In the British industrial city I live in the current temperature is 4C/ 39F and it's raining. I just need warmth...

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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2012, 02:20:02 AM »
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and it's raining
I love the English weather, but I can't remember when it wasn't raining, its getting silly now - its a little bit warmer down here in Reading though.

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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2012, 05:50:58 AM »
Why does anyone need a floor length stunner? Unless you run in those circles, I guess. My bathrobe reaches the floor, and it's a pretty satiny white, so does that count?

I agree with indigotiger. The list is unrealistic for most women. Perhaps women who live in NYC and have a Sex and the City sort of lifestyle, but I would never wear a LWD with my pale skin. It's like the classic white shirt stylists were trying to foist on women a couple of years ago. One size does not fit all.

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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2012, 06:14:05 AM »
I agree with molly ..... they are lovely dresses, but really aimed at the waif thin coat hangers.  I would like to see the same list, but aimed for a more mature figure.

Exactly. I don't feel excluded reading the article, as with most things in life, one should consider the source. Danica Lo (the author of the article) left out a few descriptive words in her title. Instead of "10 Dresses Every Woman Should Own"; she should've titled it: "Ten Dresses Every Young, Urban, Size Four and Below Woman Should Own"  ;)

OTOH, using these kinds of articles as a starting point, and not necessarily taking them literally, may be something to keep in mind. If one isn't an evening gala type gal, maybe substituting two day dresses might be the idea. That's the cool thing about sewing garments. We can tailor our pattern/fabric selection according to our needs and wants.

But, at least the articles has gotten us thinking about our wardrobes, and what is/isn't in them. Heck, I do that anyway.  :D

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2012, 06:38:07 AM »
I prefer the second article and its example dresses appealed to me more.  They did get me thinking about being prepared in advance for those occasions that come up where dresses are appropriate.  However, I definintely don't find myself in the same type of social situations as Kate Middleton.  ::)

It reminds me of the comment in the Wardrobe Oxygen article (where she suggests an evening top rather than a dress).  "Those who say they don’t need [something] like this are often those who are dressed inappropriately for an event. I see you women – you in the oxford and chinos at a wedding, in a cotton sundress at your company’s holiday party at the hotel ballroom, in a dowdy suit at your nephew’s Bar Mitzvah."

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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2012, 08:32:58 AM »
"Fail-Safe Party Dress"  with THAT neckline !!!!  :o
Very tempted to do my own parody version of this list.

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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2012, 11:03:39 AM »
"Fail-Safe Party Dress"  with THAT neckline !!!!  :o
Very tempted to do my own parody version of this list.

Yes! Pleazzzeeee! Then post it here for all to enjoy.

I thought a couple of them would be nice, oh, you know, tunic tops  ;D But reality is that my days for wearing trendy little dresses are long gone, along with the body that looked good in that stuff. Ah, youth.....

I'm glad that dresses are finally having a moment, and really wish I could participate, since a dress - one piece - is so easy! But I don't show my legs.
Still, you can adapt the concepts to whatever it is you do wear - something flirty and summery, red-carpet glam, no-fail party outfit, etc.

I think I'd edit the list for my needs. I can use flirty and summery, lady-like, no-fail party, basic white, basic black. Those could all be adapted to a pants + top scheme. Some of the other categories don't fit my life - like most of the looks in the second link (except the maxi). I hope I'm around for the time when dresses in longer lengths are on trend. Then I might be inclined to participate.

Well said.

And, I've got to say it, IMO most of what they showed was so, umm, ugly(Not the word I really wanted to use :D) that it didn't flatter the women they were using as examples. It read as more of a "what not to wear list". Ugh.

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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2012, 11:05:31 AM »
well, yes - most of them I don't need!  Although it would be fun to be able to get dressed "up" sometimes.

I did my own interpretation of the lists as well -
1) LBD
2) LWD - this could double as the sundress for me
3) Little Navy Dress (Go to Sheath)
4) Sundress (not strapless)
5) Tee Shirt Dress
6) Shirtdress
7) Floral Dress
8) Wrap Dress
9) Party Dress - doubt I'd wear it very often though!  But I could see the idea of a Party Top and pants or skirt! 
10) Evening Dress - I will need a Mother of the Groom dress in a year.

I do wear a housedress during the summer for chores, it gets too humid here even for shorts & a tee shirt!  Its in a Hawaiian print.

I could use dresses 5, 6, 7 and 8 for work - so I think I would concentrate on those first.



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Re: The "10 Dresses"
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2012, 11:14:08 AM »
Since I seem to own NONE of them, I am thinking of tackling this project. Don't know how I'll do it, since I have not yet finished the 6 pairs of boxer shorts I have cut out!  But I was considering trying to knock off a dress a month perhaps.

I was wondering if anyone else had seen these articles and felt inspired?

Patti, thanks for the list!* Even though I wasn't exactly "inspired" it did prompt a bit of thought and the responses here have been a good read. I look forward to seeing what you make!

PS. I miss having a life where I needed the evening gown and little sequined party dress. If I wore them now, I would end up on that people of Walmart site.

ETA: * Your original post of list links. I was typing when you posted your personal list and didn't want to sound like I was making fun of it. It's a good list.
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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2012, 11:31:39 AM »
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well, yes - most of them I don't need!  Although it would be fun to be able to get dressed "up" sometimes.
Patti
Your list is much better, I might have a go at some of these.

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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2012, 12:03:55 PM »
Patti,

I greatly enjoyed reading both lists and loved most of the offerings. Like Blue Mooney, I prefer to hide my legs with long skirts or pants. But even though I am retired and live a rather simple life, I still attend parties, go out to dinner and other events. I could wear each of those, if  they fit my fuller figured 60's yr old body. But I have recently made a maxi dress and made a tea length floral summer dress and some of the other offerings.

This is quite a fun topic to adapt and learn from---or even ignore.
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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2012, 12:31:04 PM »
I thought there were some interesting choices on both lists that could be adapted to different lifestyles...but then I love me a dress...and I love interpreting trends because if I waited for the marketplace to come up with fashion forward, work appropriate dresses for my plus size figure...I would be walking around naked. ;)
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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2012, 01:31:09 PM »
Well, let's be honest ladies. If you're waiting for Glamour magazine to come out with a list of dresses for a mature figure you're going to be waiting for their editors to die and roll over in their graves lol. That magazine knows its main target audience is waif thin, single, well to do fashion fanatics and caters to them. You're never going to find a list that caters to a life involving children, mortgages, or even getting up early without a serious hangover. I think the CONCEPt of the list is a good one though (perhaps sans the ultra mini and the skin tight sheath).  I think it could easily be adapted to provide a list of staples for summer like the one Patti came up with. Im a firm believer in the idea that fashion can brighten your day. Just because you dont have a party to go to doesn't mean you can't wear something pretty and flattering for no reason at all! I do it all the time but most especially when Im feeling down.
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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2012, 05:08:49 PM »
There is a whole group of baby boomers or on the edge of that with no periodicals that address us as consumers. MORE is supposed to be for the "more" mature woman, but even their models are far from reality for most of us.  I think a publisher could do well marketing to the true everyday woman most of us are....even my daughters feel left out of reality.  I occasionally watch QVC because a friend of mine is an avid fan, and they do have more realistic models in age and size. 

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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2012, 07:07:19 PM »
I'm totally not trying to be snarky but, putting my marketing hat on, if you were looking for a fashion specific magazine for the more mature woman what would you want to see in it? I have to say one refrain I hear and see from women both online and in real life that women in middle age, unless they have a reason to, overwhelmingly choose comfort clothing above something tailored. Fashion magazines such as Glamour publish tips about things that, let's be honest, the vast majority of the baby boomer and middle boomer demographics don't engage in on a daily basis.  Yes, makeup and dresses get put on for special events but not daily.  I hear time and time again from other mothers (even ones who are my age) that they can't be bothered with make-up anymore much less getting into something more fashionable than khakis.

I hope that didn't sound snotty, it's just the reality of marketing.  You have to be able to sell your product and that product has to fit into the lifestyle of your demographic in order for it to sell.  If the majority of your proposed demographic doesn't put on make-up and doesn't wear clothing that could be considered uncomfortable, it's exceedingly hard to market a fashion specific magazine (full of make-up tips, high end fashion, and sultry advice) to them.  That's why lifestyle magazines are so much more successful with that demographic.  The articles in those magazines are much more diverse and are tailored toward women who have families, husbands, homes, and even retirement plans.
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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2012, 08:36:11 PM »
I don't know....I am retired and still love wearing make-up and dressing up. I have my lazy comfort-only days too, but actually do better taking care of myself than when my kids were little and I was too busy and tired to bother.  As I age I want to grab on to all the fun of dressing up and being my best. I know that I have much more money to spend now than I did when I was younger, as do many in my demographic. I love when i see the occasional article featuring real women in comfortable stylish clothing and articles that speak to this time of life. 

Some of the fashion magazines show clothing that is so very expensive, yet shown for an age group that may not have that kind of money.  I just find it interesting, that is all. 
Bottom  line, it is all about sales! 

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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2012, 09:10:39 PM »
Just because you dont have a party to go to doesn't mean you can't wear something pretty and flattering for no reason at all!

A silk blouse with a pair of jeans can be flattering at any age.


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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2012, 09:10:43 PM »
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Some of the fashion magazines show clothing that is so very expensive, yet shown for an age group that may not have that kind of money.  I just find it interesting, that is all.
Bottom  line, it is all about sales! 

Well I agree with you on that point.  I see outfits in magazines that have a jacket or pants worth $300+ all the time.  I'm like "Really?"  I mean, yeah, I actually do have that kind of money to spend but who wants to?! $300 is 1/3 of the way to buying a ticket to England to see my friends.  I think I'd rather save up for that than drop 3 C notes on a pair of zebra print pants.
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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2012, 10:33:53 AM »
Interesting topic.  I think the idea can be easily adopted to one's lifestyle.  I am often inspired by CMarie (the other Carolyn) and her beautiful dresses.  If anyone can style and make a dress, it's Carolyn!

Here in the south, dresses are very practical in the summer due to the heat.  (It will be in the 90's this week in Alabama).  We wear dresses and skirts just to be cool - even while cleaning the house sometimes. 

I went on a Sheath dress kick last summer, and have really worn them.  I was thrilled to pull them out this spring.  They are timeless.  I am planning two more dresses this summer - one is a shirt dress out of a Mark Jacob's (I think) eyelet I found at Fabric mart, and the other is a color blocked knit dress out of fuschia and orange.
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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2012, 11:14:19 AM »
I often find myself puttering around in a little sundress in the summer.  We have no central air in our house so I need all the breezes I can get even the ones that come from below!
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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2012, 11:00:28 AM »
I might be very wrong about this, but aren't the main consumers of high-end fashion actually older women? Are the single young women that the fashion magazines seemingly target really the primary customers? See, I have no issue with marketing to your targe-audience--that is what marketing is all about. However, what bothers me is the sense that middle-aged women are in fact the target audience of fashion mags, and that the youthful content is meant to be aspirational. To me, that is the wearysome, and sometimes offensive aspect. I know young women who wear costly clothes, and still more who dress casually. But of my friends who have always been interested in clothes and fashion, I don't see that interest declining with age. If anything, they have more money and time to spend--so why not give a nod to those women?

That said, I don't think that a fashion magazine that specificaly caters to older women will necessarily be that successful, because few older women want to be pidgeonholed as such. I don't myself.  So they'll continue to choose Vogue over a publication like More. Instead, I would prefer to see a magazine that featured more variety, with a range of looks, ages, and body-types. Perhaps something a bit more sophisticated than we're used to seeing too, but that's my taste. In bygone years, one advantage an older woman had was a certain amount of earned sophistication, a worldliness that could seem out-of-place in a younger person. In any event, I turn to fashion for a bit of glamour, to lift myself up. Like Lopaisate, I'll wear that  pretty dress just for myself.

I rambled on...sorry about that. So let's start a magazine! But before that happens, it's probably more practical to focus on my dress wardrobe. Even though I'd have to adapt either list to my lifestyle and look, it did open my eyes a bit. Last night I was looking over my summer sewing plan, which has a heavy emphasis on casual dresses. On first glance, that seems practical, but in the last month alone I've scrambled several times to find more formal clothes. So I think I'm going to shoot for being slightly over-dressed and wear nicer clothes, even if it's just me in front of the computer.
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« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2012, 11:07:19 AM »
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So let's start a magazine!

You know after this whole conversation I actually thought about that.  We could start our own Artisan guild paper.li online magazine.  We could link to hot patterns, blog posts from our members, and even create outfits using something like Polyvore that would appeal to our diverse membership. Just a thought!
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« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2012, 02:02:06 PM »
A very interesting thought! I'd seriously be interested in helping put something like this together.

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« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2012, 02:32:49 PM »
I like the variety idea...and showing how a fashion idea could be worn by various age groups and be flattering...how to alter and tailor a basic design...accessorize, etc.  I like looking at fashion magazines, have an In Style on my lap right now under my iPad for reading when I board my plane in 30 minutes. But I would like to see some adaptability of the fashion ideas inside the magazine. So start something up and I will subscribe! 

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« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2012, 05:09:01 PM »
One of my favorite quotes - "M. Balenciaga likes a little stomach". 

Interesting article contrasting Balenciaga and Dior with respect to making clothes that fit the woman vs. forcing the woman to fit the clothes.  http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/01/couture-clash/6571/

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« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2012, 07:55:32 PM »
This has been a fascinating thread to read.  The last time I wore a dress was for my sister's wedding - 10 years ago.  I was under orders and I complied.

I may have to think this over and make one dress to see how much I like wearing them these days. 

Between kids and being in the IT world where I might have to crawl under a desktop or machine on any given day, I ditched dresses as soon as the business dress code no longer mandated them.
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« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2012, 07:02:15 AM »
What a wonderful article in The Atlantic. It is fascinating to think about what fashion has expected of the female body vs the male body (are ties the most restrictive item?) and how concepts of beauty have evolved yet stay the same.
I remember my mother talking about her mother loosening her corsets for an afternoon nap...and watching my own mother squeeze into her 'panty girdle' and now there are body shapers galore for everything from thighs to 'back fat'.   And yesterday, flying home, was a woman in pajama bottoms and a huge t- shirt on the plane.  Remember when people dressed up to fly? It is a fashion parade all the time!

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« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2012, 01:01:27 PM »
Interesting Atlantic article.  I have The Golden Age of Couture book and have enjoyed reading it and examining the photos in it many times. Would have loved to see the exhibit. 

When I was in London about 15 years ago spent a few hours in the V and A and loved looking at the clothing displays.

I find most "must have" lists annoying- what  a person "must have" depends so much on lifestyle.  I don't need half of the dresses on the 10 dresses list.
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« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2012, 03:20:57 PM »
I sometimes look at those types of things for fun.  This one is a :had that, had that, never had/wouldn't ever wear that, much too long in the tooth to wear that again, etc.

I've had a lot of these, when I was young and single and used to go out to dinner and clubs, but not now.  They don't fit my life any more.  Interesting that there's not one in the lot that I'd wear to work without having to add a jacket and dark stockings to make it look more covered up, and yet a nice dress is a fast and simple way to get dressed and out the door in the morning.

I say:  if they fit your life, and you have the figure for them, go for it!  Don't wait until you're too big/old/housebound to wear them. 

 

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